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Vbgore Vs Eclipse

Which engine should be used for Oturan Online?

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1 Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:12 pm

Oturan

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As you guys know Oturan Arena has been the focus of attention for a while, and it still will be for even longer. But even then, the original Oturan Online should be slowly working in the background. Oturan Arena will be keeping everyone busy, and having fun while i get hard at work on the coding of oturan, and the spriters spriting one a day. But now i need help making this important decision. To use Eclipse 3.0 or Vbgore.

~Pro's of Eclipse:
-Much more friendly community, for help on anything we need.
-Easy program to use.
-Not much programming needed to make it decent.
-Very quick to make a game.
-Team Building (team can work on the game, in game)
Thats basically it......


~Cons of Eclipse:
-Crappy graphics
-No shadows
-When games are released they only have 2-3 people on at a time....
-Very limited, unless programmed.
-Limited animations
-Engine isn't even released...
-Static GUI
-The new engine has been "coming soon" for almost a year now.
-Very snobby community that rejects fan games.
-No summoning
-& alot more...


Summary: Eclipse will get Oturan done quick but poorly.
Eclipse Website

~Pros of VBgore:
-Amazing Graphics!
-Live Shadows!
-Its already released
-Extremely Flexible game editing.
-Summon Type Jutsu
-2/3D, looks more on the 3D side.
-Makes maps detailed, with fog, rain, snow and more.
-Unlimited file sizes.
-Sprites can be any size we want.
-Particle Effects for jutsu. (doesn't require sprites for it)
-Walk, Run, and Attack Animations.
-Isometric movement, and run blur.
-MySQL server hosts instead of just hosting from my computer.
-Built in Updater
-Built in Action Bar (jutsu icons)
-Alot more i can't remember.


~Cons of Vbgore:
-Takes a while to learn Visual Basic (proramming language)
-Requires more time to add in parts of the game.
-Will take a little longer to develop, but its worth it IMO.


Summary: Much more Professional game, longer development time.
Vbgore Website

~Comparison~

*Oturan in Eclipse(recently)


*Oturan in Vbgore(few months ago)


So the question is:



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2 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:52 pm

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Actually, VBgore is ALOT better, but I have my private reasons for choosing Eclipse!

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3 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:53 pm

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Private? XD

Do you mind telling me, so i can make my decision eventually Smile

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4 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:07 pm

radori

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Damn, VBgore is alot better than eclipse lol
maybe it would be worth the wait
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5 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:08 pm

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lol. well you'll have Oturan Arena to run around in tongue

Plus, im sure if i just take 2-3 weeks of practice on it, ill get it down. Just pure trial and error. lol



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6 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:09 pm

radori

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Yea, i vote for VbGore
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7 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:19 pm

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lol can you vote so i don't forget.

2 VB, 1 E3 Smile

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8 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:05 pm

Looking at the list and visiting the site i have to say VB gore, that's my vote.

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9 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:25 pm

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lol, yea im really liking VBgore, just wanted the opinion on if you guys would prefer a better game and longer dev, over bad game/fast dev.

Vbgore is just amazing!
Look a mini map!


Shocked

The look of it, is just... i can't describe it! XD

Enjoy the screen shots:






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10 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:24 pm

Yeah i saw all those pics of the site, i haven't tried downloading the engine though, somebody told me it was really complex and you had to get like 4 different programs lol.

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11 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:41 am

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4? lol

You actually only need one. The engine

Then if you want to host you need MySQL

And if you feel like programming, then Visual Basic.

Yeah, its complex unlesss you just use the default graphic.
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12 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:41 am

GuzmanM

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Actually, it will be good to tell why I love more Eclipse than VBGore...but...shame on me...that's why I said PRIVATE reasons

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13 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:02 pm

Oturan

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What, you can't program, so you use eclipse?

The poll isn't about what you can do, so dont make it private. Its about what you would like in the game.

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14 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:19 pm

Oh, i guess the guy i was walking to must have been hosting so that's why he needed the extra program.

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15 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:22 pm

Oturan

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yea. Ill be hosting too, so yea i will need the 3 programs which i already have tongue

Unless i get someone else to host. I don't think my computer will be able to handle hosting a HUGE mmo, and still be used normally.
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16 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:31 am

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Can I just point out that you have only used one of your original test maps for the Eclpise thing. People who have actually worked on eclipse to create games have made a hell of a lot of better map tiles, and, it seems to be an easier to understand set up.

I have seen a game made on VbGore, and I have to admit, it wasn't as impressive as what you have there. Honestly, I would check the games that have been made with those engines before making any comparisons.

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17 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:08 am

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hm.... I see what you mean.
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But its kinda mainly on you. Being the graphics guy, do you want to work with restricted features. I mean 3.0 will have bigger sprite sheets. But the fact that we cant start until it comes out just kind of sucks to me. Second the more i look at the eclipse 3.0 development, the more i think it would be cool. I think its best to work on all graphics, and wait till eclipse 3.0 is released to make the decision.

Eclipser Dev Pages

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18 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:11 pm

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Ive seen some updates on Solar Eclipse in java. Looks pretty cool, so im gonna check out some java in the mean time.
Smile


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19 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:24 pm

Yeah Solar eclipse is looking really good, its nice and smooth i guess.

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20 Re: Vbgore Vs Eclipse on Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:21 am

Oturan

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yea. I hope they follow through and release it by the end of this year Smile

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